Subject: Re: [stella] Strange Atari item found From: Chris Wilkson <ecwilkso@xxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:44:43 -0500 (EST) |
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, MoonlightKnight wrote: > I double-checked, still no windows. The suspect one all look the same, > though. All of them are grey with a gold square on them. Some of them say > Activision on them and have Activision games on them, but others don't say > anything and have Atari or M-Network games on them. > > Most of my pics are only about 15k to 20k. I have a digital camera that has > an "economy size" file to help get more pictures. Would that be an > acceptable size? I could probably get a link to them from a website but it > would be easier to post them here, considering their size. > > Thanks > Brian J Nelson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Park" <joelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <stella@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:36 AM > Subject: Re: [stella] Strange Atari item found > > > > By the way, the windows will always be covered up by some kind of sticker. > > So it's possible that the windows are under your labels. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MoonlightKnight" <mnlghtnt@xxxxxx> > > To: <stella@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [stella] Strange Atari item found > > > > > > > OK, here we go. None of the games, based on your description, are > EPROMS. > > > They don't have windows on them. Some of them may be PROMs because they > > > don't look like original issue (I say this because I have seen the > inside > > of > > > quite a few games, as I had to open them for various reasons, and I > > compared > > > them from memory.) Still, would anyone object to me posting a few .jgps > to > > > the list? I think pictures would help solve this problem. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Brian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "dboris" <dboris@xxxxxxxx> > > > To: <stella@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 7:49 PM > > > Subject: RE: [stella] Strange Atari item found > > > > > > > > > > If the chips have clear windows on the top (usually round) then they > are > > > > EPROMS, programmable ROMS that are erasable. If they don't have the > > window > > > > then they are either PROM, ROMS that can only be programmed once, or > > mask > > > > programmed ROMS which is what is in the original carts. > > > > > > > > As someone else pointed out, a cart like this that took the normal ROM > > > chips > > > > from real carts wouldn't make much sense, since it would be hard to > get > > > the > > > > chips without thier carts. The ones that took EPROMS where made for > the > > > > purpose of piracy. One person would buy the original cart, dump the > > data, > > > > and program it into as many EPROMS as they wanted, then all you would > > need > > > > was one of these ZIF socket carts to play the games. > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan said: > > > > > These aren't actually that uncommon. Are the chips ROMs or > > > > > EPROMS? I found > > > > > one at a flea market a couple years ago that took EPROMS, along with > a > > > > > handful of EPROMS. Either way the cart should let you play > > > > > any 2 or 4K game > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if these are ROMs of EPROMS as I don't really > > > > > know how to tell > > > > > the difference. If you, Dan, or anyone else can tell me how > > > > > to identify > > > > > them, I will try my best. I'm not real good with the inner workings > of > > > > > electronic devices but I am a fast learner if I have a good > > > > > teacher. I > > > > > think I should be able to play any game made for Atari that > > > > > didn't need > > > > > extra stuff on the board (like Pitfall II's sound chip.), but > > > > > I'm not going > > > > > to rip apart my good carts just to find out. I'm just > > > > > thinking about the > > > > > ones that have NEVER worked no matter what I've tried. Those > > > > > would be worth > > > > > the loss (after all they're already half dead anyway!) Who > > > > > knows I may even > > > > > be able to salvage a couple of the bad ones with some of the > > > > > new chips. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------------- > > > > Archives (includes files) at > > http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ > > > > Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------- > > > Archives (includes files) at > http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ > > > Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/ > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------- > > Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ > > Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/ > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ > Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/
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